Sequel Talk - Magical Diary Wolf Hall

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#46 Post by Spazzbunny » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:56 am

Mmm, I think most of the yaoi desires comes from the fact that we haven't really gotten to meet many of the female characters. That and the fact that most of us are girls. xD I'd personally like for things to stay in the format that the Horse Hall had (three of the opposite gender and two of the same), but I'm also a stickler for continuity.

As far as the girls go, I really want to get to know Suki better. She's definitely interesting. I'm also curious as to what a path with Angela would be like (I sense a possible tsundere), but I'm not necessarily jumping out of my seat to root for her. The mystery sophomore girls would be nice to at least see snippets of, and I like the name Anisha. ^^ That's just my two cents on the girls though.

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#47 Post by OverlyObsessed2001 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:56 pm

hanako wrote:but the plans also include William
Awesome. :D :D :D I am very happy now. :D

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#48 Post by Muse » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:48 am

4. Minnie is a pursuable character.
SO excited about this. And Damien. He seems like he would be fun in a boyxboy relationship. I'm curious how he would act around another guy...

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#49 Post by MrMRA » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:17 pm

I'm a guy. I'm straight. I like romance games with good stories. Enjoyed Horse Hall. Preordered it, played through the alpha/beta builds. Looking forward to being able to play a guy with gal romance options in the sequel.

Just throwing this in here since the forum doesn't have many comments leaning my way.



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#50 Post by seink » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:56 am

I would love to see the next 2 years of Horse Hall`s story line. I mean, you fight through the whole year to get your loved one, and when you finally get, that`s it, nothing else...kinda sad...XD
True, we get a small message telling how its went on in the future, but I think the future is determined through much more than just a single year.
If you are in great terms with someone this month, it does not mean it will keep on the next.

The second year begins. Along with it, new students arrive and everything may change. The one you love may graduate and you WILL feel lonely(wahaha! its a cuuuuuurse! XD). Even if he/she doesn't, will you(and your lover) be able to keep loyal? New magic to learn and more tests to pass. Events you couldn't go because you were a freshman are now available. You and your friends will meet new people and maybe you will have less time together. So much to learn, so much to do, the second year may be one even better than the first.
Then,finally, third year! Here you are close to graduate. This may be your last chance to change yourself before entering adulthood. All the hard work you put to learn many magics on the first and second years would make all the difference in the last year, when everybody should be prepared to take the next step on life. New problems arrive, "What will I do in the future? What are my dreams?", "Am I walking in the right path?", "Should I have as much fun as possible now and make memories to remember forever?", "Should I get revenge on the guy who made my life a mess before graduating?", "Will my friends remember me after we part?", and so on.....
While on the second year one may not be worried about the future, on the third year you need to choose a true path, be it your true vocation, what you do best, or what you think its safe, cool or easy.

Well, all great to think and all, but here came the main problem:
In doing a second and third year, the story will branch more then ever! If you have, lets say, 8 paths in one year, on the second you may branch more 8 paths and more 8 paths at the last year. multiply all and you will have no less than 512 story paths!!!! Ok, there ARE ways to cut those down and make it more viable, like things that are bound to happen and you can't avoid it as festivals or events partial related to you where you are not the main focus but any way, its tons of work!

To finish, if you ever make a sequence or a alternative(the way I call when its not the same story but the same context. Yes I'm talking about another hall's story.), I'm sure to buy it. ^^

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#51 Post by shadowshed » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:26 pm

So, would this WolfPC also a freshman?

- got to pusue Minnie
Okay, do you guys realized that there're Jacob and Kyo run after her? Do you dare enough to step in? XD

In any way, I'd love to see more new characters, since the current unpursuable characters seemed like they are just some side characters. *shrugs*
Or maybe it just because HorsePC was too ignorant? :?:

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#52 Post by hanako » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:50 pm

Well, they are side characters in the first game because they're not the major people that HorsePC interacts with, so at this point you know very little about them. They'll look rather different when they're the people you're spending all your time with!

The speculation people make about some characters is waaaaaaaaay off the mark. :) But you wouldn't know that yet because you've only barely seen these people. You know their names (in most cases) and roughly what they look like (in only some cases, and appearances are likely to update anyway when they become main characters) but not a lot else...

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#53 Post by LittleKittie » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:33 pm

I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but I think it would be great TO RECEIVE A VALENTINE (other than Damien), cuz seriously I was really looking foward to receive them, you send you friends friendly ones and no one gives you ONE! I was really sad at first...

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#54 Post by hanako » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:40 pm

You can receive valentines from several people, although you get more if you're playing as treasurer and adjust the price of valentines to $1.

Damien, Donald, Virginia, Ellen, and Minnie can all send HorsePC valentines.

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#55 Post by DarthSnuggles » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:22 am

Wow. I've just come off a three-day bender playing Magical Diary (one path per day, stretching it out so that I can savor the romance :wink: ), and I am extremely excited to learn that there are at least plans for more games in this universe! I would probably be MOST excited about a sophomore year for Horse Hall, since I got really attached to all of my Sues and want to know what's going to happen to them next, but I understand that there's probably major issues with programming a direct sequel to a game with as many different possible paths and endings as this one has. (Not to mention that hanako might not want to just keep writing the same story forever.)

...That was a really off-topic digression. What I mean to say is that I would love to see what happens in Wolf Hall! Particularly if the main character gets to know some of the same freshmen as Mary Sue, but from a different viewpoint. As a big fan of the Donald romance path, I think it'd be really neat to get to know him as a guy friend, especially if you got to be his roommate.

Personally, I don't have any huge preferences for romantic prospects, since all the characters that we see onscreen are very well fleshed-out, but I think it'd be a little bit weird to have a Potsdam option, since she strikes me as being planted firmly in the "slightly dotty, yet frighteningly astute mentor" role. I feel that the romance path with Grabiner worked, in part, because he never made any effort to be friendly with students, so earning his respect or whatever felt like a big accomplishment.

I'm really excited to hear that Minnie will be a romantic option, because I developed a great affection for her character in my play-throughs of Horse Hall. I always tried to intervene for her when Kyo started getting creepy and violent, and I really like the extra interaction that you get with her if you wind up married. It will be really cool to witness her storyline first-hand, and maybe even be able to help her out when things get rough.

I'd also be really pleased to see more of Jacob, since, if you win the election for Treasurer, you really only encounter him a few times. (I haven't played through Virginia's path yet, though, so maybe I just haven't unlocked all of his scenes.) He'd make an interesting option for a teaser-romance, like Pastel was in Horse Hall. (I'm also adding my voice to the chorus of players who are begging for William to be romanceable by a female in some game down the line. I know he was involved with Damien, but he also went out with Angela, so it's conceivable that he might wind up with a girl, right?)

Other characters I'd like to see more of...Luke and/or Logan, for sure. They both seemed like charming, entertaining guys when you see them in detention or for Bingo games. Manuel is adorable, and he seems really timid, kind of a like a male version of Ellen (if you're not on her path) and would make a cute roommate or friend. It would also be really cool to get to meet some of the named characters that you don't ever actually see, such as Susan, Corinna, or the mysterious Barbara. More Snake girls in general, I think, would be neat. (I'm a bit biased, since my first Sue got the Damien ending that led to her being transferred to Snake Hall at the end of the year.)

As for general gameplay events, although getting the chance to cast spells outside of exams would be neat, what I'd REALLY like to see is the chance for your main character to get invited home with a friend, roommate, or love interest for a holiday (like Spring Break or something). I really enjoyed Ellen and Virginia's tales of their Thanksgiving vacation, and it'd be fun to have something like that for your Wolf. It doesn't even have to be shown, it could just be alluded to after the fact.

Maybe accepting an invitation to visit an NPC over a holiday could be a way to earn (or lose!) a point on somebody's path. Alternatively, maybe the main character could decide to stay at school over a break and do some studying. (Or get into some kind of trouble!) Just a thought brought up by some of the Ellen and Grabiner events. :)

...This post ran a lot longer than anticipated, so I think I'll cut my fangirling short, at least until I have something more useful to say than "anything hanako could possibly do for this game will be great!" (Though that is how I feel.)

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#56 Post by kyoli » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:38 pm

i am getting really excited. can't wait for the next one to come out and play through the different possible stories and to see if event from the other game has any effect on this one or not.
super excited and just can't wait!! ^_^

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#57 Post by DarthSnuggles » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:33 am

It also occurred to me today that it would be awesome to get to romance Ellen from a male point of view. She's a lot of fun, and there's a lot going on under the surface with her; it'd be interesting to see how her interactions differed with someone who wasn't her roommate (or a fellow girl, for that matter).

New romances with new characters will also be a lot of fun, though. I guess including too many characters who were available in the first game would get kind of boring, both to write and to play. But I still think it's a neat idea to possibly see some of the same events from a different perspective, or to get to hear full versions of some of the conversations that you only eavesdrop on at the very end in Horse Hall.

Yeah...I'm really excited about this. :roll: I'm kind of a dating-sim nerd.

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#58 Post by Wakuseino » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:45 pm

I kind of agree that it would be great to romance Ellen from a male point of view. Speaking as a guy, she's clearly the most attractive character in the game from my point of view.

Cutting out that, her story has a lot of potential, even though it's "done". What it's really missing is context. Since we saw things from a Wildseed point of view throughout, we don't really know why they're so upset about Ellen's actions, and it's never really adequately explained from what I saw. It would be very interesting to see her actions from a point of view more rooted in the magical world, giving us some context as to why mixing magic and science is a bad idea, and more importantly, seeing how Ellen reacts to the discovery of "why". It would probably have a very different result, and I'm curious about where it would go from there. Of course, it could also get into the vast differences in upbringing between a magical family and a "normal" family, especially considering Ellen's... family circumstances. This already came up to an extent in Horse House, but it would be interesting to see things from the perspective of someone who's in a magic family, struggling to understand precisely what the problem is in the first place due to their upbringing.

Honestly though, it's something I kind of expect us to only see later. I'd like to see it sooner than later, but I can understand enough to know that it'll probably take a while to reach that point, since it requires us to have a bit more context than we have now. One of the big advantages that I can see to the system of doing the same year over for each Hall is that the filter we see the world through changes pretty significantly. I half-expect that by the time Snake or Toad becomes available, our character will be from an Other World. Of course, before we can do that, we need to see things from certain other perspectives first. Starting as a Wildseed for our first playable makes perfect sense contextually, since it gives us a nice foot in the door and the basic knowledge of the world so that we have the same general level of knowledge of our next character.

Now, to put an end to these run-on paragraphs, I'm probably going to be fine with whatever winds up done in the end.

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#59 Post by kyoli » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:21 pm

you know i hadn't even thought about all the stuff that you just mentioned wakuseino! but reading what you had to write makes me even more excited to see what they will do in the future games. it would be awesome to get to see the magical world from all sorts of other views.

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#60 Post by EndlessMidnight » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:53 pm

I feel like it would be nice to see another member of Horse Hall... I mean we met... maybe 3, 4 if you count the character you play as. There must be more that you don't get to see. I can personally name about 6 members of Wolf Hall. There must be more horses that we just didn't get to see or hear about. It would be awesome to have a little wild, athletic, and outspoken girl, as opposed to Minnie's quit demureness. That way you get a wider variety of pesonalities. None of the romance options listed at this point seem to be that like that. I would especially love it if the girl made you chase her or that would tease you... maybe you grew up with her? I don't know. It's just an idea.