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How to kill a Dad?

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:58 pm
by ark99k
I have never been able to start a civil war or kill my dad (no matter how hard I try) so I do not know half the story line. :( For some reason I can't help but be a good queen.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:18 pm
by Mint.Locust
To kill your dear old Dad, you need to either not be a Lumen when Togami arrives or have very, very low Lumen stats. Agree to his duel and your Dad will intervene on your behalf and get himself killed in the process.

Note that you can still die on this path if your composure isn't high enough.

For civil war, upset the nobility. Have Novan history of 20+ when the Ixonite delegation arrives and punish the Duchess of Hellas. Raise taxes, and generally do badly at the ball (ie. fail the composure/elegance/presence/decoration check at the start, have low flattery and court manners, dance badly). Send the heir to Elath to Arisse. That should be enough to trigger it. :twisted:

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:27 pm
by hanako
Sending the boy to Arisse is actually one of the safer choices as far as the noble approval rating goes - the dangerous bit of it is that it gives her control over Elath and makes her that much more likely to *win* the civil war if it happens.

If you want to make Arisse mad, give the boy to his grandfather (which will often, though not always, get him killed) or to your own uncle, which looks like a power play on your part.

Politics!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:46 pm
by Kirroha
I suppose giving the boy to Adele is usually the "best" option in this situation, then?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:58 pm
by hanako
It has the fewest drawbacks, which is why it's the hardest one to pull off. :)

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:20 pm
by Kirroha
Hmm, funnily enough, Elodie is willing to kill her own father at Cruelty 10 but when her father gets killed by Togami at the same Cruelty level, she seems utterly depressed and horrified.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:28 pm
by hanako
Well, it's different if YOU did it, but nobody else is allowed to? :)

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:15 pm
by Gnapo
How do you see the cruelty level?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:06 pm
by hanako
You can't, that's a hidden stat. There are a couple of hidden things that track actions you take during the game rather than skills.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:07 am
by Kirroha
Is it just me, or does ordering Banion's execution and succeeding raise your cruelty by a ton?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:11 am
by ark99k
Kirroha wrote:Is it just me, or does ordering Banion's execution and succeeding raise your cruelty by a ton?
Wait how do you kill Banion?! :twisted:

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:18 am
by Kirroha
ark99k wrote:
Kirroha wrote:Is it just me, or does ordering Banion's execution and succeeding raise your cruelty by a ton?
Wait how do you kill Banion?! :twisted:
You either give away the province when the Ixionites attack, or punish Brin by making her a commoner or executing her. Banion will be angry and insult you during the gala, upon which you have the option to execute him, but it is difficult to execute him because he'll attempt to use his public speaking skillz to wow the nobles to his side, so there's a possibility your game may end right then and there if you aren't charming enough to wow the people back to your side and execute Banion for trying to lead a rebellion.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:48 pm
by ark99k
Okay now another question, how do I WIN the civil war?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:31 am
by Kirroha
There are many ways to win it (by "win", you mean not losing the game there and then, right?)

- Win it the brute force way - war. Make sure you're good enough to win at that point, though.
- Take Briony hostage and negotiate. For best results, have high enough cruelty + presence and choose the third option so that they never can come back to bother you ever again.
- Have high enough public speaking and conversation, then negotiate with them, agreeing to marry Arisse's son and take her in as an advisor.
- Have high enough intrigue and when your dad asks you what you want to send agents for, say noble plots. Then choose to assassinate Arisse.
- I'm sure there are other ways, too.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:50 pm
by ark99k
Ugh!!!!! I fail at failing! I can not get te civil war.